Very sorry to hear that Ken Lucas, the owner of the legendary Ken's Cafe on Green Street, has died after a short illness. Ken's Cafe was an institution for generations of Hammers fans from the 1960s onwards. Ken and Carol did a great interview for my book Goodbye To Boleyn, revealing many of their amusing football stories over the years, including serving Frank Lampard Senior, among others. Hope there's a full breakfast and mug of strong tea waiting for you up above, mate. RIP Ken.
West Ham musings by Pete May, author of Massive, Goodbye to Boleyn, Hammers in the Heart and Irons in the Soul.
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Friday, June 24
Friday, May 7
Ken's Cafe is no more
This is a sad sight on Green Street, Ken's Cafe is now closed and has lost its famous sign. Carol and Ken have retired and the venue of legends is no more. It felt a bit like being Indiana Jones finding the ruins of a lost civilisation. Or as Wordsworth might have put it: "Where is it now the vision and the gleam, the egg chips and beans?"
My recent visit to the Newham Bookshop also allowed me to explore the new housing development on the site of the Boleyn Ground. Perhaps it will be slightly better when it's finished, but it's basically just a monolith block of flats dominating the road where the John Lyall Gates used to stand. Slightly better news is that the Boleyn pub is being restored by a Remarkable Pubs and its listed Victorian features will still be seen in all their glory. Though strangely enough the beer-soaked carpet isn't included in the renovation.
Thursday, June 11
Farewell Ken's Cafe — a legend in its own lunchtime
Dear Fellow Hammers
Ken’s Cafe is retiring 1967-2020!!
I am after a little help from you all if you can. My Nan and Granddad own Ken’s Cafe in Green Street. This was the 1st cafe as you left the Boleyn ground heading towards Upton Park tube (also had a burger table outside the shop front).
Ken and Carol Lucas have decided that after 53 years, this is the right time to close their kitchen for good!! For the majority of their years, West Ham and the supporters were a significant part of their lives and business
Many of you may have your own memories of the cafe over the years. As a memorial to their time owning the café, We (the family), would like to make a scrap book/ collage for them, from their customers, supporters, happy hammers and friends that they have made over this lifetime of trading. And this is where I ask you for your help.
We would like you to use the email address at the bottom of this post to send any good wishes, memories, Experiences and photos etc, that you may have and wish to share with them, for us, so we can present them in a scrapbook /collage of them to keep, as West Ham and you have been such a big part of their lives for such a long time.
We are looking to give this to them at the end of the month so please if there is any help you or someone you may know, that went into the cafe and could take a few moments to send a quick e mail, that would be gratefully appreciated
Any information will only be privately used for Ken and Carol to keep as a scrapbook/collage
Many thanks in advance
Family of Kens Café
Kenscafe1967@gmail.com
I am after a little help from you all if you can. My Nan and Granddad own Ken’s Cafe in Green Street. This was the 1st cafe as you left the Boleyn ground heading towards Upton Park tube (also had a burger table outside the shop front).
Ken and Carol Lucas have decided that after 53 years, this is the right time to close their kitchen for good!! For the majority of their years, West Ham and the supporters were a significant part of their lives and business
Many of you may have your own memories of the cafe over the years. As a memorial to their time owning the café, We (the family), would like to make a scrap book/ collage for them, from their customers, supporters, happy hammers and friends that they have made over this lifetime of trading. And this is where I ask you for your help.
We would like you to use the email address at the bottom of this post to send any good wishes, memories, Experiences and photos etc, that you may have and wish to share with them, for us, so we can present them in a scrapbook /collage of them to keep, as West Ham and you have been such a big part of their lives for such a long time.
We are looking to give this to them at the end of the month so please if there is any help you or someone you may know, that went into the cafe and could take a few moments to send a quick e mail, that would be gratefully appreciated
Any information will only be privately used for Ken and Carol to keep as a scrapbook/collage
Many thanks in advance
Family of Kens Café
Kenscafe1967@gmail.com
Saturday, April 23
A brief history of Ken's Cafe
Ken and Carol Lucas have been running Ken's Cafe for 49 years. Here they tell Pete May about their Boleyn memories… and the good news is they're staying open after the Hammers' move to Stratford.
FRANK LAMPARD'S SAUSAGE SANDWICH
POLICE AND TEA LEAVES
Ken’s Café is a pre-match institution at West Ham. On match
days the queues stretch through the door and out into Green Street. Ken’s is
only the size of a normal two-up two-down Green Street house, but it fits in a
tremendous number of customers around its Formica-covered tables.
Behind the counter is Carol in her apron, dispensing strong tea from an
urn and numbered tickets for each food order, sharing jokes and shouting for
someone to get more cups (the staff include three generations of her family).
Hundreds of fans all get fed on time. Instead of on overpriced stadium pie or
hot dog, you can still get egg, chips and beans with two slices and a cup of
tea for less than a fiver.
Ken and Carol Lucas have plenty of stories to tell. Ken emerges from his kitchen to make a rare
appearance in the café itself and makes himself a coffee, joining Carol and
myself at a table. Did they ever get used to get any footballers in?
“Frank Lampard Senior used to have a business two doors away
and he’d sneak in for his sausage sandwich with masses of brown sauce,”
remembers Carol.
“I put a load of brown sauce on it, he said ‘it ain’t
enough’, I said ‘just have the bottle!’” adds Ken, who cooks all the food in
the kitchen at the back of the café aided by his daughter Sarah Jane.
“We had half the team in here… Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst… a
lot of the youngsters come in the old days. But they’re prima donnas now aren’t
they, with their tinted windows, not signing autographs like in the old days,”
says Carol. Though Carlton Cole did come in more recently. “It made my grandson
Billy’s day and though he wasn’t meant to eat it, Carlton mullered his bacon
sandwich!”
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| Ken and Carol celebrate their 50th anniversary |
The good news is that the cafe is staying open next season
after the Irons move to Stratford. “No we are not closing down!” emphasises
Carol. “We’ll just potter along, as long as we get to the end of the week with
enough to cover us.”
Ken, who recently turned 80, owns the café outright, so fans
will still be able to get their pre-match grub in Green Street before taking a
bus or taxi to Stratford.
Carol, who is a few years younger than Ken, but never seems
to age, was originally from Slough and Ken from Streatham. They met at the
Southend Kursaal when Carol was on the coach and Ken was riding his motorbike.
After accepting a ride home on Ken’s bike Carol was in trouble with her
parents, but romance quickly blossomed.
Having been a cook in the Army, Ken was working as a lorry
driver, but fancied opening a café. In 1967, two years after marrying Carol he
looked over number 467 Green Street. “I parked my lorry outside. The law come
in and said you’ve got to move your lorry there’s a match on in two hours. I didn’t even know West Ham was here!”
recalls Ken.
When Ken and Carol took over the premises it was an
amusement arcade. They still live upstairs and four of their children were born
there. Ken kept a few machines in the café, though this lead to problems with,
what he terms, “a few Herberts from Canning Town.”
ROCKERS, SHOTGUNS AND SYNAGOGUES
“We had all the rockers in here and all the mods went to a
place in Plaistow,” remembers Carol. “I told them we can’t have German helmets
in here, it’s a Jewish area!”
“One of them came in with a shotgun. I said I’m not having
that in here!” laughs Ken. “ You see ’em now and they’re all granddads. When I
say ‘do you remember the shotgun?’ they go, ‘sshhh!’”
Back in the 1960s and 1970s Ken’s Cafe did an unlikely trade
selling bacon sandwiches to Rabbis from the nearby Synagogue. “It was a very
Jewish area when we moved here,” says Carol. “The market was mainly Jewish and
next door was a Jewish lady selling materials. The rabbis would sneak in, and
him next door, every time his wife went to the warehouse, he’d say, ‘quick Ken,
get me a sandwich!’”
But it was the football trade that really helped the café
prosper. Ken and Carol are proud of the fact that customers on match days are
usually served within 20 minutes and nothing is cooked until it’s ordered.
“Keep the fat hot!” is Ken’s sage advice for feeding industrial quantities of
chips to hungry fans.
They’ve had the odd mishap though, such as the time a fryer
broke down and, “the time the electric went off, so we did it by candle light
but we still fed ‘em!”
Ken and Carol are happy to serve fans of any hue, though if
there’s any aggravation it’s normally Carol who sorts it out. “I can shout them
out, because they’re not likely to hit a woman,” explains Carol. “But the worst
football fan was a woman in in her 80s, quiet as a mouse. Then one person came
in wearing another team’s colours and she was like a volcano. The
most she ever managed was three games before we threw her out again.”
Even the police used to like a secret cuppa round the back.
“In came one of the chiefs saying ‘have you got any of my officers in there?” I
said ‘no’ and he looked in the kitchen, but we had eight of them in the
scullery at the back!” laughs Carol.
Over the years, the café’s displays of replica guns on the
walls have caused some talking points. “This girl said, ‘are them guns real?’ I
said, ‘yes’, the only thing you’ve got to do is don’t slam the door when you
leave.’ She flew out of here!” chuckles Ken. “The law came in and he said ‘I’ve
got to have you about these guns’ until I told him they were plastic. We did have one of them nicked once and about
a month later the bank was robbed!”
Ken’s Café has had its share of well-known customers such as
Never Mind The Buzzcocks’ Phill
Jupitus and Ken Livingstone when he was running for Mayor. “Ken’s alright,
though I don’t like his politics. He saw the sign at the front and said, ‘my
cafe!’ We’ve had EastEnders stars too
and Iain Dale from LBC. I’m dreadful for names I just see faces,” says Carol.
“What I like is the celebrities are just like any other punter. They queue up,
they don’t expect special treatment. They’re not here as celebrities they just
want to be one of the punters. So I won’t let anyone molest them.’’
Other memorable moments at Ken’s include a car swerving in
Green Street and coming through the front window some ten years ago. “I was
sitting here doing my books and crash, a car come in. The whole side of the
shop come down. I got a new front out of him though,” says Ken. The Cafe has
also had a window smashed by an irate window cleaner who had a grudge against the
previous owner and was once burned down— but only on celluloid, when it was
used as a film set.
FAMOUS THROUGHOUT THE UK
Thanks to their match-day regulars Ken and Carol have been
recognised in unusual places. Ken recalls: “We were at Center Parcs in
Nottingham and this big bunch of Herberts came over. I said ‘watch it’ but as
they got nearer they said “Ken’s Café!! How are yer!” What a relief! We were at
the Isle of Wight in a chip shop late at night and the guy says, “I’ve seen you
before in Ken’s Café!”
There was talk of a committee being formed to help local
businesses move to Stratford, but little came of it. They remain sceptical
about West Ham’s move to Stratford and Carol bemoans the flat prices of the
planned development of the Boleyn Ground. “It’s rock bottom for housing in this
borough, you get five families in some houses, so there should be more social
housing when it’s developed.”
The area is changing, but Ken’s Café today is pretty much
the same as it’s always been and that’s part of its charm and why authentic cafes
are back in fashion. Ken and Carol seem genuinely happy in their work and will
carry on. It’s a proper caff and they’re a culinary treasure.
“They won’t give us that fifth star for food because they
want lighting and marble floors and posh chairs and a toilet,” says Carol. “But
people are fed up with Costa Coffee and all this espresso double this double
that. We won’t change!” And none of their customers would ever want them to.
Pete May's memories of West Ham's final season at Upton Park will be appearing in a forthcoming e-book Goodbye To Boleyn.
Pete May's memories of West Ham's final season at Upton Park will be appearing in a forthcoming e-book Goodbye To Boleyn.
Monday, November 16
Who bought Ken's Cafe?
Anyone know who bought Ken's Cafe? A ceramic model of Ken's Cafe has sold for £150. It was part of the Tower of Babel exhibition by Barnaby Barford, on display in the Medieval and Renaissance Galleries at the Victoria and Albert Museum. If anyone does know who purchased the pottery Ken's then Carol at the real Ken's Cafe in Green Street would be interested in talking to them and acquiring it for posterity. Any leads very much appreciated…
Friday, October 23
Ken's Cafe sold for £150!
A ceramic version of Ken's Cafe has sold for £150. Thanks to Lisa for telling me about the Tower Of Babel exhibition by Barnaby Barford, on display in the Medieval and Renaissance Galleries at the Victoria and Albert Museum.
The V&A blurb explains: "The Tower of Babel is Barnaby Barford's representation of London today. Standing six metres high, it is made up of 3000 individual bone china buildings, each depicting a real London shop photographed by the artist. At the base are derelict shops and pound stores, while at the pinnacle are London’s exclusive boutiques and galleries."
All the individual buildings are for sale. The china model of Ken's Cafe (presumably up there at the top with the boutiques and galleries) has already gone — a snip at £150 — while the china version of the Newham Bookshop has also been bought for a whacking £210. Just hope Enner Valencia hasn't bought any of them as his record with bone china isn't great after teacup-gate last season. But still, it's nice to have proof that Ken's Cafe has artistic merit.
The V&A blurb explains: "The Tower of Babel is Barnaby Barford's representation of London today. Standing six metres high, it is made up of 3000 individual bone china buildings, each depicting a real London shop photographed by the artist. At the base are derelict shops and pound stores, while at the pinnacle are London’s exclusive boutiques and galleries."
All the individual buildings are for sale. The china model of Ken's Cafe (presumably up there at the top with the boutiques and galleries) has already gone — a snip at £150 — while the china version of the Newham Bookshop has also been bought for a whacking £210. Just hope Enner Valencia hasn't bought any of them as his record with bone china isn't great after teacup-gate last season. But still, it's nice to have proof that Ken's Cafe has artistic merit.
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